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France Telecom Supports OpenID!

  • Sep. 24th, 2007 at 4:44 PM
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I'm at Digital ID World today in San Francisco and was told I had to attend a session titled "Advanced Identity Management in Telco environment: Challenges of multi-play Identity Convergence". Orange (the mobile provider) started talking about expiriments they've been doing around service usage registration.

They just announced that all France Telecom subscribers (~40-million -- the country is about 65-million people) now have an OpenID. AOL announced a similar project, making every AOL account an OpenID this past February.

This makes FT the first major telco to support OpenID! They're also talking about allowing access to Orange branded services with external accounts (hopefully OpenIDs). They just showed a draft screenshot of OpenID logins along with Google and Yahoo auth. Go to http://openid.orange.fr to learn more.

Awesome news and I hope to see others follow. I've always said telcos are in a great place to be identity providers.

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(Anonymous)
Sep. 25th, 2007 02:03 pm (UTC)
OpenID is Orange! ;-)
Dear David,

It's a great french news! :p
I hope that DIDW is cool, I'm now tp Singapour

But I have soon an appointment with Didier Quillot (CEO of Orange, France Telecom)

Can you connect me with this "OpenID Orange Guys"?...

Thanks so much!

Snorri
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http://openid.orange.fr/ariel
Sep. 25th, 2007 04:14 pm (UTC)
Comment on Orange OpenID beta
David,
Just to clarify: we manage approx 40 million Orange User IDs in France (this is basically the total number of internet and/or mobile customers, including activated auxiliary users in our subscribers households).
All of these individuals can activate their OpenID service, but they don't get a key asigned to them by default.
The reason for this is simple: Orange uses MSISDN and/or email addresses as logins, so we decided against deriving these into OpenID keys automatically, to protect our customers' Privacy.

Regards,
Ariel Gordon.
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doughalve.myvidoop.com
Sep. 25th, 2007 04:57 pm (UTC)
I agree David - This is awesome news.
Without a doubt, France Telecom is helping to establish Open ID Providers along with AOL, SunMicro in addition to supporting many other innovative relying parties on the global internet. At Vidoop, it is difficult for us to understand why more sites and companies aren't adding the "option" for users to sign up for or login to their services using an Open ID credential. We certainly see Open ID as potentially a SSO for the internet and intranets, but until people realize the simplicity and ease of use, sites have nothing to lose by providing their users the "option" to use their Open ID instead of traditional methods of logging on. I applaud France Telecom for their initiative and know they will be remembered as being an early innovator and a company that helped the Open ID community in becoming welcome to the rest of the internet World. A smart move that will pay off in the end.
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missysedai
Sep. 27th, 2007 11:36 pm (UTC)
Welcome back to SixApart - I'm here via the announcement.

Since you're the OpenID guy, could you explain why this is happening? (Quote from a friend's blog):

I can, although it annoys me, understand why LiveJournal treats OpenID-authenticated users as anonymous for commenting purposes, since after all, anyone who feels like abusing the system can set up any number of OpenID accounts and for that matter OpenID servers they feel like.

I cannot, however, understand what sense it makes to have authenticated, specific OpenID users, who have been added to an individual's LiveJournal "friends" list - and bearing in mind that it's fairly challenging for two people to share any URL, never mind an OpenID one - to be treated as anonymous by the LJ comments system.

Thus ensuring that people who are able to read someone's friends-only and friends-group-only protected posts, which is probably a more significant trust boundary to cross than the ability to comment, are still not able to comment on any of her posts, because LiveJournal treats them as anonymous even though they're the union of authenticated and on her "friends" list.


It's my LJ he's referring to - I'm largely FO, and only registered users may comment. I don't want to set it to FO commenting because I do occasionally make public posts, neither do I want to allow anonymous commenting because I've already been stalked, thanks. Shouldn't an OpenID on someone's flist count as a registered user?
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matgb
Sep. 29th, 2007 12:41 pm (UTC)
Seconded-the client side implementation of OpenID on LJ still really sucks, accounts really ought to be treated slightly better by now. Doubt it's Dave's area specifically, but a bit of influence on improving the client-side aspects would be good, LJ currently has the best reasons to log in using OpenID of any site I've yet seen, but the experience is clunky and not particularly intuitive.
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daveman692
Sep. 29th, 2007 10:16 pm (UTC)
I completely agree and was even talking to someone yesterday about fixing it. Not sure when it will happen, but it is definitely something we're aware of!
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