Slides up, more later! Talk went well!
Tim O'Reilly writes on O'Reilly Radar:
I completely agree. Don't get me wrong, I think Google OpenSocial is a great step forward to allowing gadget style applications (ala Facebook apps) to be run in a distributed environment. At the end of the day I don't want every application I interact with on the web to be via a mammoth social network. I do see OpenSocial adding value of being able to integrate small common applications across social networks. It scares me though as it seems like a slippery slope if web entrepreneurs no longer think about building standalone services, but only those that ride on the back of these networks. If the Web is the platform, then how is moving from one large silo to a few large silos that much better?
As I'll be discussing in one of my talks at Web 2.0 Expo Berlin this week, OpenSocial is a great step forward, but as Tim says it doesn't go nearly far enough. I want APIs powered by OpenID and OAuth that let me control what services see which of my friends. I want to be able to interact with my friends all over the web; I want distributed applications (Dopplr, LiveJournal, Twitter, etc) to have controlled access to my friends from the mammoth social networks.
While I like the direction of Google OpenSocial, not only may Google be too late, as Mark argues, I don't think they go far enough. A framework and a set of Google Gadgets for building "social applications" misses the point. We don't want to build more applications that look like Facebook applications. It isn't about a social UI. It's about deeper re-use of social data to enliven any application. Some of those applications may have a minimal UI, like Google's breakthrough search app. OpenSocial doesn't give us any of that. Ajax widgets are a halfway house, an attempt to sandbox the kinds of applications that can be created.
I completely agree. Don't get me wrong, I think Google OpenSocial is a great step forward to allowing gadget style applications (ala Facebook apps) to be run in a distributed environment. At the end of the day I don't want every application I interact with on the web to be via a mammoth social network. I do see OpenSocial adding value of being able to integrate small common applications across social networks. It scares me though as it seems like a slippery slope if web entrepreneurs no longer think about building standalone services, but only those that ride on the back of these networks. If the Web is the platform, then how is moving from one large silo to a few large silos that much better?
As I'll be discussing in one of my talks at Web 2.0 Expo Berlin this week, OpenSocial is a great step forward, but as Tim says it doesn't go nearly far enough. I want APIs powered by OpenID and OAuth that let me control what services see which of my friends. I want to be able to interact with my friends all over the web; I want distributed applications (Dopplr, LiveJournal, Twitter, etc) to have controlled access to my friends from the mammoth social networks.
- Location:Berlin, Germany
Was just updating the OpenID Relying Party adoption graph which is used in a variety of presentations, using data provided by the great guys at JanRain. Was really cool to see the curve following the presentation Brian Ellin and I gave at Web 2.0 Expo actually impact adoption, bringing the rate back up to the time following the RSA conference and both Microsoft's and AOL's announcements.


- Location:Work - Mountain View, CA
- Music:Drone of air conditioners
Slides are now online at openid.net.
- Notes (http://openid.net/pres/2007_Web2Expo_I mplementing_OpenID-notes.pdf)
- No notes (http://openid.net/pres/2007_Web2Expo_I mplementing_OpenID.pdf)
Someone also did an audio recording, but hasn't uploaded it yet.
Thanks to everyone, including
brad, who showed up for it!
- Notes (http://openid.net/pres/2007_Web2Expo_I
- No notes (http://openid.net/pres/2007_Web2Expo_I
Someone also did an audio recording, but hasn't uploaded it yet.
Thanks to everyone, including
Finishing up the presentation Brian Ellin and I are giving in the morning on Implementing OpenID. 10:45am at the Moscone. Sleep soon. :)
Now that I've found you can search for "is:unread" in Gmail! Been wondering how to do this (and thus cleanup my inbox) for months.
In other news, went to Web 2.0 Expo today. Was blown away by the number of people that were there at 9am on a Sunday!
In other news, went to Web 2.0 Expo today. Was blown away by the number of people that were there at 9am on a Sunday!
Just finished uploading an OpenID Developer Tools CD which I put together last night. Has all the latest code (including patches to Open Source software) I could get my hands on, presentations/screencasts/tutorials, specs, logos, and a bunch of links to good resources around the web. Planning to hand out a few hundred of these at Web 2.0 Expo this week while I'm there, as well as a part of the session Brian Ellin and I are giving on Wednesday. Feel free to download a copy at http://openid.net/OpenID_CD_April-2 007.iso.zip, is about 120mb.
Headed to
rynfitz's birthday tonight over at
brad's house. Right now working on our presentation for Wednesday in a very sunny San Francisco.
Headed to
- Location:Home
